Imam Tayimiah R.A: Counter views – I

(Walid Dabbous)
Subject: Re: Ahl al-Sunnah and
Ibn Taymiya
Dear brothers,
as-Salamou alykum wa
rahmatoullahi wa barakatouh,
I agree with brother Masud
when he says that we can NOT
on ibn taymiyya in matters os
aqueedah in the end part of his
posting (I only pur the
beginning here above).
Someone was defending ibn
taymiyya a few weeks, so please
find a contribution on this
subject taken from the aqueedah
of Ahl-es-Sunna wal Jamaa
(ashaira wa maturidiyya).
In article , U58369@ writes:
|> Assalamo Alaikum Wa
Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatu
|> Concerning the accusation of
Ibn Taymiyyah that he attempted
to ascribe
|> qualities to Allah Subhana wa
Ta’ala: Some of the people who
lived in
the same
|> era as Ibn Taymiyyah accused
him of this and they had no
proof to back
up their
|> accusations whatsoever. The
people after them received this
|> what Ibn Batutah collected.
As most of us know, Ibn Batutah
was not a
|> either of hadith OR aquidah.
Besides, he never met nor heard
|> speak. The biography of Ibn
Taymiyyah shows that he always
|> those people who attempted
to ascribe human qualities to
Allah Subhana
|> (See Hayat Sheikh al-Islam Ibn
Taymiyyah by Muhammad al-
Baytar). You
can find
|> more proofs in Ibn
Taymiyyah’s book, Sharh Hadith
An-Nuzool (Commentary
on the
|> Hadith of Nuzool). There are
many proofs that Ibn Taymiyyah
had the
same be-
|> lief and aquidah as the
Sahabah and the scholars of As-
Salaf. To show
just one
|> example: Ibn Taymiyyah says
in his book, al-Aquidah al-
Wasitiya, pg. 9,
|> >from the belief in Allah is the
belief in what Allah ascribed for
himself in
|> the Quran and in the Sunnah
without falsifying or denying or
|> question how his attributes
are). And he quotes this ayah
from the
Quran, Sur-
|> ah al-Shurah, Ayah 11:
|> …there is nothing
whatsoever like unto Him and He
is the one
|> that hears and sees.
|> And Ibn Taymiyyah explains
that the Muslims from Ahl al-
Sunnah wa
|> don’t deny
|> what Allah ascribed to Himself
& don’t falsify His words. And
|> in all His names and ayat. And
they don’t make comparisons
Allah and
|> his creatures because there is
nothing like Him. And Allah
knows best
|> everything and about Himself.
|> This is one of many examples
that proves that Ibn Taymiyyah
|> “tashbeeh” (ie-never
attempted to ascribe human
qualities to Allah).
I read many of ibn taymiyya
books and the books wrote by
scholars to refute him. It is very
clear that ibn taymiyya was
by the majority of scholars. he
was accused not to belong to the
Salafi school. I showed this in a
previous message and I will
this message soon in sha’a Allah.
The scholars of Ahl eSunna wal
from the 4 schools refuted his
opinions and ibn taymiyya
always tried
to escape from punishment by
saying the 2 shahadas.
ibn taymiyya and his disciple ibn
aljawziyya (different from the
hanbali scholar Ibn alJawzi) are
not considered to belong to the
salafi school. ibn taymiyya was
put in jail because of many of his
wrong teachings concerning the
aqeeda. He was not put in jail by
tyranic ruler. He was put in jail to
preserve the people from his
ideas. (See Rihlat Ibn Battoutah
where ibn battoutah said: when i
came to damascus there was a
man called ibn taymiyya
speaking about
religion science, but there was
something strange in his mind…
he was doing “kutbat aljuma’a”
and he said yanzilou rabbuna ila
assam’a adunya, then he went
down two steps on the minbar
and he said
“kanuzuli hatha” (like my
descending). the people of
damascus jumped
on him and wanted to kill him.
al-‘imam al-mujtahid asSubkiy
many books to refute ibn
taymiya. This event of ibn
Taymiya is
registered by the bokks of
history and they are available
and may be
the Muslims need to read them
or some of their contents. Ibn
was put in jail by the agreement
of the Muslim scholars of Egypt
ashSham. His imprisonment
came as a result of the ijma^ of
scholars of his age..
In addition, not only ibn
battouta spoke about ibn
taymiyya but a lot
of scholars wrote books and
letters to warn the people from
this man.
i have a long list of these Ulema
and their books. I have a lot of
books also.
Among the great Ulemas from
ahl es-Sunna wal jama’a who
refuted him and
decalred that his is out of the
right way of islam:
1) “aSubki” in his “aRasae’l
aSubkiyya firrad ala ibn
2) ibn hajar alhaytami, in al-
Fatawa al-Hadithiyya
3) Abou hayyan alandaloussi in
an-Nahr almaadd
4) ibn hajar alaskalani in fath
albari page 410 fascicle 13 kitab
from the 12th hegire century
5) Sheikh ahmad ibn Zayni
dihlane in finat alwahhabiyya,
6) sheikh Muhammad ibn
darwiche al-Hout from beirut in
his book
Rasail fi akidat ahl-esunna
from the 20th century
7) sheikh muhammad Ouwayss
from alAzhar in his book ibn
taymiyya laysa
salafiyyan, and many others.
In fact, there are many sayings
of ibn taymiyya related to TAJSIM,
his own books. He pretended in
his fatawa, (al-asma’a was-sifat)
the ahl-esSunna wal Jamaa did
not refute Mujassima (those who
attributed body to Allah). He
even said that there isn’t any
text from the Salaf to refute
mujassima. While in fact,
al-‘imam Ahmad
said that the person commits
kufr if he says Allah is a body
even if he says that Allah is a
body not like other bodies (jism
kalajsam). He was quoted saying
that “The terms are taken from
language and al-‘Islam and the
people of language have put this
(body) on something that has
length, width, thickness, image,
structure and components and it
was not narrated in ash-shari^ah
(Islamic law). Therefore, it is
invalid and cannot be used” (end
quotation of Imam Ahmad). al-
bayhaqiyy narrated that about
Ahmad in
his book manaqib Ahmad and
az-Zarkashiyy narrated the first
saying of
Ahmad. Notice that Ahmad did
not accept the term (body not
like other
bodies) because it does not befit
Allah and the language does not
accept that. I also quoted the
saying of al-Imam al-Ash^ary
Kitab An-Nawader:
“If someone belives that Allah is
a body then he ignores Allah
and he is a kafir”.
To be continued..
In sha’a Allah
Walid Dabbous


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